Interview: ”Zimbabwe points the way to the future South Africa”

Here follows my interview with the american journalist and author Jared Taylor about integration, segregation and South Africa. The interview has been printed in swedish in the weekly newspaper Nya Tider.

jt                                                                                                       Jared Taylor.


Mr Taylor, you grew up in Japan. How does the japanees people feel about multiculturalism? Do they want the kind of “diversity” that we can see in the US and large parts of Europe?

The Japanese have a very strong sense of national and cultural community. They know instinctively that large numbers of immigrants would dilute their culture and weaken their sense of community. Japanese are appalled by what they see in the United States: racial and ethnic conflict, different groups jockeying for power, spontaneous segregation, blacks and Hispanics using their own failures to try to make whites feel guilty, and a huge grievance-and-pacification industry that has grown up to control the problems that arise from diversity.

Japan has low birth rates and a shrinking population, and these problems will make social programs and retirement benefits difficult to sustain. However, the Japanese prefer this to the prospect of seeing their country transformed in disconcerting ways by immigrants.

USA is a multicultural country and has been for quite a while. Has multiculturalism been a good concept for the US?

The United States has “celebrated diversity” for only a short part of its history. From its founding until the mid-1960s, Americans took it for granted that apart from a substantial black population that was the legacy of slavery, their country was an offshoot of Europe and would always remain so. Immigration policy, until 1965, was designed deliberately to keep the country majority white. Only in that year was the law changed to make it easier for non-Europeans to immigrate.

The consequences have been extraordinary: Whites have now been reduced to about 63 percent of the population, and Hispanics are now the largest non-white group. Non-whites have higher birth rates than white, and 2012 was the first year in which more non-white than white babies were born. That trend will only accelerate, and white children will become a smaller and smaller minority as time goes on.

For the population as a whole, whites are projected to become a minority in 2040. By 2060, they will be only 40 percent of the population, and Hispanics will be the majority. This will represent an astonishing change from a country that was almost 90 percent white in 1960.

Now that the United States is such a mix of races, languages, religions, and cultures, it has become obligatory to insist that “diversity is our strength.” It is common even to say that “diversity is our greatest strength.” It is astonishing that people can say this with a straight face when diversity is so clearly a source of conflict and tension.

I report from South Africa from time to time. The whites are getting fewer; people move away and are being killed in farm attacks. What do you think of the future for the white minority in South Africa?

I fear that Zimbabwe points the way to the future for South African whites. Blacks have persecuted whites and essentially driven them from the country. As is now the case in South Africa, blacks were especially zealous in driving farmers off their land. This has been a tragedy, and not just for whites. Black Zimbabweans are suffering terrible privation, and many are moving to South Africa, which still has something of a white infrastructure.

So far, the black rulers of South Africa have not been as ruthless towards whites as the Zimbabweans, but there is a strong contingent that would like to drive out whites. I hope this days never comes, but I can imagine whites streaming out of South Africa with only the clothes on their backs. In the long run, if whites are to have a future in South Africa, I believe it will be only as separate, self-sufficient communities like the one in Orania.

In Sweden, and I think we can see it in other Western countries as well, the politicians and journalists that fights hardest for multiculturalism are living in wealthy, white areas them self. We can also see that whites wants to live with other whites in general. If they not want to live in a multi-ethical area or city – why do you think they still fight for multiculturalism?

This is one of the great mysteries of our time. Why do elite whites—who have the most to lose from turning their countries over to non-whites—favor their own dispossession? I do not have a good answer to that question. Whites seem to be engaged in a kind of competitive altruism, in which they admire and honor each other according to how much they insist on spending public money to benefit the “downtrodden.” And who could be more downtrodden than illiterate, dark-skinned immigrants with strange habits and no skills?

But, of course, they are supremely hypocritical about this. They seem to be saying, “Diversity and multi-racialism are wonderful treasures, but we will nobly forego their benefits so that our poorer countrymen will reap the benefits of having illiterate, dark-skinned neighbors, and of sending their children to school with their children.” Our rulers carefully insulate themselves from the consequences of their policies.

What do you say to the persons that calls you a racist?

Calling someone a racist is just a form of name calling. Anyone who is reduced to name-calling is admitting, in the most graceless way, that he has lost the argument. I laugh at people who call me names. Instead, I challenge them to show me where my analysis is incorrect, my facts are wrong, or my conclusions are illogical. It is because they cannot do any of those things that my opponents call me names.



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